Comments on: A little fun with Fireworks http://www.robinsblog.com/06022005/a-little-fun-with-fireworks/ Resources for Web Development Students Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:51:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: David Hucklesby http://www.robinsblog.com/06022005/a-little-fun-with-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-101 David Hucklesby Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:55:26 +0000 http://www.robinsblog.com/?p=125#comment-101 Oops. My bad. (quote) I have seen server-side scripting used to detect the browser ...(/quote) Not quite true. The script actually reads the HTTP_ACCEPT header that every browser sends when you ask for a web page. That header tells the script if it's okay to send XML back to the browser. No browser detection involved. Sorry. Oops. My bad.

(quote) I have seen server-side scripting used to detect the browser …(/quote)

Not quite true. The script actually reads the HTTP_ACCEPT header that every browser sends when you ask for a web page. That header tells the script if it’s okay to send XML back to the browser. No browser detection involved.

Sorry.

]]> By: David Hucklesby http://www.robinsblog.com/06022005/a-little-fun-with-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-99 David Hucklesby Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:31:31 +0000 http://www.robinsblog.com/?p=125#comment-99 Re: No more CSS hacks - umm... No! I disagree emphatically. In this scheme, where is Konqueror? iCab? Where is there room for a new generation of handheld browsers? Which version of Netscape - version 7 or the rebranded Firefox, Netscape 8, just released? Also, why is this needed? Sticking to web standards satisfies modern browsers - no hacks usually needed. Microsoft kindly provides "conditional comments" to style that oddball set of browsers. Put IE6 in "quirks mode" and you can treat it the same as IE5 on Windows. This looks to me like a solution in search of a problem. OTOH - I have seen server-side scripting used to detect the browser to determine if it can be served strict XHTML with the correct MIME type of application/xhtml+xml. Modern browsers can take advantage of this, while those like IE that don't understand XML get plain HTML. Re: the estimating tips. Thanks for that. I found the comments more helpful than the article. He also links to a very pertinent post by Andy Budd: 10 Bad Project Warning Signs - May 31, 2005 http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2005/05/10_bad_project_warning_signs/ Kind regards. David. Re: No more CSS hacks – umm… No! I disagree emphatically. In this scheme, where is Konqueror? iCab? Where is there room for a new generation of handheld browsers? Which version of Netscape – version 7 or the rebranded Firefox, Netscape 8, just released?

Also, why is this needed? Sticking to web standards satisfies modern browsers – no hacks usually needed. Microsoft kindly provides “conditional comments” to style that oddball set of browsers. Put IE6 in “quirks mode” and you can treat it the same as IE5 on Windows. This looks to me like a solution in search of a problem.

OTOH – I have seen server-side scripting used to detect the browser to determine if it can be served strict XHTML with the correct MIME type of application/xhtml+xml. Modern browsers can take advantage of this, while those like IE that don’t understand XML get plain HTML.

Re: the estimating tips. Thanks for that. I found the comments more helpful than the article. He also links to a very pertinent post by Andy Budd:

10 Bad Project Warning Signs – May 31, 2005
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2005/05/10_bad_project_warning_signs/

Kind regards. David.

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